Donnerstag, 19. September 2019 - 21:14
28.12.2017
Weiteren Background von Mick West/Metabunk zur F-18-FLIR-Video-Aufnahme der NYT-Story:
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Yes frustrating indeed. 15 mins fielding questions on metabunk would be immensely valuable. Elizondo hints at a trove of data analysis on the entire program in an interview with NPR:
"We had Ph.D.s, we had CI people, we had trained intelligence officers and human case officers — pretty much a full range of talent. Most of us tend to be, by nature, skeptical, because we are in the field of intelligence and national security. But I think once you get into the data itself and the specifics regarding what we're actually seeing, we begin to realize that there may be something here, a little bit more than just what people think are drones or whatever people may chalk it up to be..... First of all, we looked at it and wanted to make sure if this was authentic. Is this video coming from a true [Department of Defense] platform? Then what we do is apply some analytics that allow us to look at range, altitude, what was the aircraft doing that we were flying, who's flying it, under what conditions, sea states. So there's a lot of things at play into what we're looking at. And then at that point, we try to look at what we're seeing at the video and cross-reference it to anything that we may know that is currently in our inventory — so whether they be drones, commercial aircraft, military aircraft, missiles — whatever they may be. There is a great deal of effort by the department to make sure that we always can identify what is flying — whether it is in our airspace or any other airspace. There's a lot of rigor and diligence that's placed in looking at these, and there is some real talent in the department and in other agencies within the U.S. government that have just an incredible battery of tools to apply toward these things to make sure we know what we're looking at...."
Source: https://www.npr.org/2017/12/19/571868263/secret-program-at-the-pentagon-spent-million-to-study-ufos
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I was told by an anonymous email that two people "scored the info, circumstances et al, around the "Gimbal" footage mystery ". I contacted one of them and they said "What I suggest you do is write to TTSA or maybe George Knapp or someone and ask. " George Knapp is the Las Vegas TV journalist and Coast-to-Coast host who has been granted access to TTSA. It seems to me like the situation is simply being played for publicity.
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Do we even rightfully know that the target is a flying object? What evidence do we have that it's not, as Mick's analysis above suggests it could be, stationary but also on land or sea? Note that the FLIR is pointed -2˚ below . So could it be aimed at distant land we can't otherwise make out? In other words, could this be a rerun of the Mexican Air Force FLIR misidentification?
Terrestrially explained @ alcione.org/FAM/FLIR_CONCLUSION.html
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Do we even rightfully know that the target is a flying object? What evidence do we have that it's not, as Mick's analysis above suggests it could be, stationary but also on land or sea? Note that the FLIR is pointed -2˚ below . So could it be aimed at distant land we can't otherwise make out? In other words, could this be a rerun of the Mexican Air Force FLIR misidentification?
I don't think so, as movement of the clouds works best if they are behind and below the object. 2° down gives a relative altitude from distance of 184 feet per mile away, so 1800 feet at 10 miles, and 18,000 feet at 100 miles.
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Video says it's "2° below aircraft axis". Does that mean the primary axis as if the wings were level (or like measured as if it was looking straight ahead from the nose, as in "forward-looking")? So in this case that would be equal to level ground, as the altitude is more or less constant. It can't be relative to a plane that is in 20° angle turn as the value stays the same even as the plane banks and camera rotates. As for the Mexico UFO, they only had flir without radar returns, if I remember it right, whereas in this case they seem to have both (assuming they saw the same thing). If they had this/that fleet on the radar, wouldn't that show their distance and speed as well? They state in the video that "They're all going against the wind. The wind's 120 knots out of the west". If they were actually looking at some plane on the flir that was unconnected to whatever else they saw on the radar, as was also suggested here, wouldn't that have a definite target on the radar and one that would probably stick out as having somewhat different trajectory and speed than the other targets? Also would they see transponder data as well if it had one on (if it was an airliner for example)?
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